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		<title>By: A.B.C.D</title>
		<link>http://www.lammo.net/rants/146/need-an-emergency-dentist-wait-three-months-else-i-dont-get-paid#comment-4723</link>
		<dc:creator>A.B.C.D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ye benj

i feel fine now

screw the dentists...


i used clove oil, it wasnt nice taste

but in 2days, oooh so worth it


i wunder how to contact gordon brown??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ye benj</p>
<p>i feel fine now</p>
<p>screw the dentists&#8230;</p>
<p>i used clove oil, it wasnt nice taste</p>
<p>but in 2days, oooh so worth it</p>
<p>i wunder how to contact gordon brown??</p>
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		<title>By: benj</title>
		<link>http://www.lammo.net/rants/146/need-an-emergency-dentist-wait-three-months-else-i-dont-get-paid#comment-4722</link>
		<dc:creator>benj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suggest you send this to Gordon Brown. Protocol dictates that he or his secretary must reply. My Mum is facing a similar dilemma and I feel helpless to guide her on what to do next.

It's complete farce with people suffering alon te way whilst Dentist's line their pockets. Time it was all Nationalised or Hospitals were forced t introdue Dental services as part of A &#38; E/ conventional treatment. 
Dentist have the cheek to benefit from NHS funded training hen set up privately and exclude NHS treatment or severely restrict it to 'Check-Ups' only. It's a marketing ploy stating "We accept NHS patients"... because mostly it means "for check-ups only"!... you've only got to look at the 'smart' clinics Dentists are now opening .... like hairdressers but charging exhorbitant fees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suggest you send this to Gordon Brown. Protocol dictates that he or his secretary must reply. My Mum is facing a similar dilemma and I feel helpless to guide her on what to do next.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s complete farce with people suffering alon te way whilst Dentist&#8217;s line their pockets. Time it was all Nationalised or Hospitals were forced t introdue Dental services as part of A &amp; E/ conventional treatment.<br />
Dentist have the cheek to benefit from NHS funded training hen set up privately and exclude NHS treatment or severely restrict it to &#8216;Check-Ups&#8217; only. It&#8217;s a marketing ploy stating &#8220;We accept NHS patients&#8221;&#8230; because mostly it means &#8220;for check-ups only&#8221;!&#8230; you&#8217;ve only got to look at the &#8217;smart&#8217; clinics Dentists are now opening &#8230;. like hairdressers but charging exhorbitant fees.</p>
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		<title>By: A.B.C.D</title>
		<link>http://www.lammo.net/rants/146/need-an-emergency-dentist-wait-three-months-else-i-dont-get-paid#comment-4690</link>
		<dc:creator>A.B.C.D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 04:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i dont have a dentist at all, i am 15 now, and have one tooth that is really crooked, it is red and sore and keeps me awake EVERY night, the dentist i used to go to, "kicked" me out when i was 9 because i didnt want to go, and i didnt like going...


how pathetic is that, no kid WANTS to go to the dentist...


the NHS is truly f***ed up...considering britain has the second best economy (although thanks to gordon brown, there are no poor americans, and ur tv is worth mur than ur house...mmhmm)

anyway, considering (although i myself dont pay taxes yet, thank god) i think it is absolutely stupid that you have to pay, the long hard way, whereas you COULD and SHOULD BE ABLE TO be sorted in days...but apparently money is more important...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dont have a dentist at all, i am 15 now, and have one tooth that is really crooked, it is red and sore and keeps me awake EVERY night, the dentist i used to go to, &#8220;kicked&#8221; me out when i was 9 because i didnt want to go, and i didnt like going&#8230;</p>
<p>how pathetic is that, no kid WANTS to go to the dentist&#8230;</p>
<p>the NHS is truly f***ed up&#8230;considering britain has the second best economy (although thanks to gordon brown, there are no poor americans, and ur tv is worth mur than ur house&#8230;mmhmm)</p>
<p>anyway, considering (although i myself dont pay taxes yet, thank god) i think it is absolutely stupid that you have to pay, the long hard way, whereas you COULD and SHOULD BE ABLE TO be sorted in days&#8230;but apparently money is more important&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps Dental Student might like to take into consideration that if people did brush twice daily and floss etc then he or she might be out of a job???

I for one am absolutely fed up of going to a dentist to get lectured about my teeth at the end of the day I'm paying for a service and as such don't appreciate what can only be advised as a good thorough nag by the dentist. Advice is welcomed, nagging is not. 

Right now I am suffering with tooth ache but with the double whammy of paying a fortune (I'm considering re-mortgaging my kidney!!) and receiving a lecture I think I'd rather continue popping Ibroprufen like they are smarties.

it absolutely astonishes me that we can receive a triple heart bypass on the NHS for free (albeit a wait may be involved) but not an extraction or filling?? Ridiculous!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps Dental Student might like to take into consideration that if people did brush twice daily and floss etc then he or she might be out of a job???</p>
<p>I for one am absolutely fed up of going to a dentist to get lectured about my teeth at the end of the day I&#8217;m paying for a service and as such don&#8217;t appreciate what can only be advised as a good thorough nag by the dentist. Advice is welcomed, nagging is not. </p>
<p>Right now I am suffering with tooth ache but with the double whammy of paying a fortune (I&#8217;m considering re-mortgaging my kidney!!) and receiving a lecture I think I&#8217;d rather continue popping Ibroprufen like they are smarties.</p>
<p>it absolutely astonishes me that we can receive a triple heart bypass on the NHS for free (albeit a wait may be involved) but not an extraction or filling?? Ridiculous!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Dentist should have recommended the use of something like PerioChip as a treatment for 'Er indoors'. 

PerioChip is a treatment mainly for Periodontitis (gum disease), but benefits to using PerioChip are:  
•	PerioChip can be used in for periocoronitis, in furcations, abutments to bridges and is also indicated for use prior to implants and in cases of perioimplantitis
•	It can be used on any patient with pockets (where the tooth sits in the gum) of 5mm in depth or greater and the only known contra-indication is intolerance to Chlorhexidine, which is uncommon.  
•	As it is non-antibiotic there is no risk of compromising patients’ bacterial resistance, it is bacteriocidal not bacteriostatic and the PerioChip should be used every 3 months alongside regular root surface debridement until the pocket depth is back to a manageable depth of 5mm or less.   
•	For any adjunct therapy to be effective it needs to remain in the pocket long enough to kill the bacteria.  The chlorhexidine has follow over action in the pocket for up to 100 days after chip insertion, which ties in well with patients’ 3 monthly visits, if pockets are still over 5mm in depth on subsequent visits chip insertion is recommended until pockets are back to a manageable depth, helping avoid more invasive surgery.

You can find more info at www.periochip.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Dentist should have recommended the use of something like PerioChip as a treatment for &#8216;Er indoors&#8217;. </p>
<p>PerioChip is a treatment mainly for Periodontitis (gum disease), but benefits to using PerioChip are:<br />
•	PerioChip can be used in for periocoronitis, in furcations, abutments to bridges and is also indicated for use prior to implants and in cases of perioimplantitis<br />
•	It can be used on any patient with pockets (where the tooth sits in the gum) of 5mm in depth or greater and the only known contra-indication is intolerance to Chlorhexidine, which is uncommon.<br />
•	As it is non-antibiotic there is no risk of compromising patients’ bacterial resistance, it is bacteriocidal not bacteriostatic and the PerioChip should be used every 3 months alongside regular root surface debridement until the pocket depth is back to a manageable depth of 5mm or less.<br />
•	For any adjunct therapy to be effective it needs to remain in the pocket long enough to kill the bacteria.  The chlorhexidine has follow over action in the pocket for up to 100 days after chip insertion, which ties in well with patients’ 3 monthly visits, if pockets are still over 5mm in depth on subsequent visits chip insertion is recommended until pockets are back to a manageable depth, helping avoid more invasive surgery.</p>
<p>You can find more info at <a href="http://www.periochip.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.periochip.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Faye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Faye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 12:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's ok. its how he/she has been programmed - to speak medical terms with no thought and consideration to how hard it is to actualy obtain an appointment to see a NHS Dentist, if we all took that rather obvious advice i reckon dentists would be out of business, no?... We all know we have to BRUSH OUR TEETH we are not stupid, however, sometimes these things happen - i brush my teeth everyday, twice a day and use mouthwash and i have been suffering for the past two weeks with teeth and gum pain. The point is, it's like you have to plan being ill or having tooth ache, with waiting lists as long as your arm to see anyone to sort it out! and when you do see someone, you are pushed from pillor to post that by in the end -you may have sorted the pain but you have lost out financially and wasted employers time in the process. I am literally reaching the limit of pain killers per day (Co-codamol 500mg) whilst losing out on sleep further to that i have to call the emergency dentist at 8:30 on a morning to try and get a dentist in my area or close enough to travel, if i cannot access the dentist they suggest 'unfortunately' i have to call back the next day and the next and so on and so forth! still yet i have not seen anyone! I think its a sham and i hope that something is sorted before we are blessed with a country full of people with decaying rotten teeth and bad breath!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s ok. its how he/she has been programmed - to speak medical terms with no thought and consideration to how hard it is to actualy obtain an appointment to see a NHS Dentist, if we all took that rather obvious advice i reckon dentists would be out of business, no?&#8230; We all know we have to BRUSH OUR TEETH we are not stupid, however, sometimes these things happen - i brush my teeth everyday, twice a day and use mouthwash and i have been suffering for the past two weeks with teeth and gum pain. The point is, it&#8217;s like you have to plan being ill or having tooth ache, with waiting lists as long as your arm to see anyone to sort it out! and when you do see someone, you are pushed from pillor to post that by in the end -you may have sorted the pain but you have lost out financially and wasted employers time in the process. I am literally reaching the limit of pain killers per day (Co-codamol 500mg) whilst losing out on sleep further to that i have to call the emergency dentist at 8:30 on a morning to try and get a dentist in my area or close enough to travel, if i cannot access the dentist they suggest &#8216;unfortunately&#8217; i have to call back the next day and the next and so on and so forth! still yet i have not seen anyone! I think its a sham and i hope that something is sorted before we are blessed with a country full of people with decaying rotten teeth and bad breath!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 09:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dental Student - You are an idiot! I hope I never have the misfortune to come in to your practice, with your attitude you'll be broke before you've even started! Stop preaching and go do some work</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dental Student - You are an idiot! I hope I never have the misfortune to come in to your practice, with your attitude you&#8217;ll be broke before you&#8217;ve even started! Stop preaching and go do some work</p>
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		<title>By: Dental Student</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dental Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 21:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

I am a dental student, yes in fact Indoors could have saved the NHS £3000 and 13-14 days of pain by brushing regularly (twice a day and properly) + flossing. 

Pericoronitis (not Perioconitis as u spelled) is a very popular problem in young adults with partial tooth impactions. In emergency clinics, 3 out of 10 patients are suffering from Pericoronitis. 

This happens when the soft tissues (gums, flap etc) around the wisdom tooth becomes infected because bacteria have invaded the area. 

Why does this happen ? Poor oral hygiene and mechanical trauma on nearby tissue...This leads to inflammation... Food impaction and caries (decay) are also problems associated with wisdom tooth pain.

How do u treat pericoronitis ? it is very simple - brush the area properly (I know it hurts -but have some guts for God's sake) and u need irrigation with a mouthwash. Basically take a syringe (i dont need the needle) and irrigate underneath the gum that is on top of the wisdom tooth with a mouthwash 3-4 times a day. In this way, u will get rid of the bacteria.

Your GP/dentist might also give u antibiotics in order to get rid of the infection. 

If u had a recurrent infection - then u need to extract that tooth.. HOWEVER - EXTRACTION WHILE INFECTION IS PRESENT IS DANGEROUS - it might lead to the spread of infection into the blood system. SO that is why ur dentist gave u antibiotics.

But isn't wiser to brush twice a day and floos and have less sweets rather than go through all that pain and pay all that money ?

Dentists always emphasise on the fact that YOU NEED TO BRUSH - we don't do it for you. If you brush twice a day- floss everyday and don't have too much sweets you will never need to see a dentist, apart from check ups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>I am a dental student, yes in fact Indoors could have saved the NHS £3000 and 13-14 days of pain by brushing regularly (twice a day and properly) + flossing. </p>
<p>Pericoronitis (not Perioconitis as u spelled) is a very popular problem in young adults with partial tooth impactions. In emergency clinics, 3 out of 10 patients are suffering from Pericoronitis. </p>
<p>This happens when the soft tissues (gums, flap etc) around the wisdom tooth becomes infected because bacteria have invaded the area. </p>
<p>Why does this happen ? Poor oral hygiene and mechanical trauma on nearby tissue&#8230;This leads to inflammation&#8230; Food impaction and caries (decay) are also problems associated with wisdom tooth pain.</p>
<p>How do u treat pericoronitis ? it is very simple - brush the area properly (I know it hurts -but have some guts for God&#8217;s sake) and u need irrigation with a mouthwash. Basically take a syringe (i dont need the needle) and irrigate underneath the gum that is on top of the wisdom tooth with a mouthwash 3-4 times a day. In this way, u will get rid of the bacteria.</p>
<p>Your GP/dentist might also give u antibiotics in order to get rid of the infection. </p>
<p>If u had a recurrent infection - then u need to extract that tooth.. HOWEVER - EXTRACTION WHILE INFECTION IS PRESENT IS DANGEROUS - it might lead to the spread of infection into the blood system. SO that is why ur dentist gave u antibiotics.</p>
<p>But isn&#8217;t wiser to brush twice a day and floos and have less sweets rather than go through all that pain and pay all that money ?</p>
<p>Dentists always emphasise on the fact that YOU NEED TO BRUSH - we don&#8217;t do it for you. If you brush twice a day- floss everyday and don&#8217;t have too much sweets you will never need to see a dentist, apart from check ups.</p>
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		<title>By: Fraser Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fraser Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like a nightmare mate - hope "Er Indoors" is feeling much better soon.

Being married to a primary school teacher who has spent a lot of time using NHS services I can unfortunately relate to a lot of what you are saying.  

It's a shame there is no joined up thinking to work out the cost to the taxpayer of covering her class while various people dodge the responsibility of getting things sorted out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like a nightmare mate - hope &#8220;Er Indoors&#8221; is feeling much better soon.</p>
<p>Being married to a primary school teacher who has spent a lot of time using NHS services I can unfortunately relate to a lot of what you are saying.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a shame there is no joined up thinking to work out the cost to the taxpayer of covering her class while various people dodge the responsibility of getting things sorted out.</p>
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		<title>By: Nadeem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nadeem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a nightmare. I am so sorry to hear about your experiences. Totally unnecessary and the shouldn't be the case in the world's fifth or so richest economy. It's shocking how bad it is now, and I'm terrified about how the NHS is going to be run into the ground when the Tories come into power in a couple of years and introduce their "efficiency savings"  i.e. sack staff and cut back on expenditure on medication and equipment. Time to start creating your minisites now to focus on private medical insurance.

Having taken my mother to what must be over 50 hospital and clinic appointments over the last year, I must say my total lack of faith in the NHS has been reinforced each and every single time. I don't just blame the organisational structure and management, which it's so easy to do, but the staff. Although there is the odd nurse or doctor who does care, the vast majority don't seem to give a toss (have you ever seen a doctor or nurse smile since about AD 1979?). They will gladly keep you waiting two hours as they go for their long lunch break, without even a hint of an apology. And try phoning any hospital after 3pm to see if anybody bothers to pick up the phone :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a nightmare. I am so sorry to hear about your experiences. Totally unnecessary and the shouldn&#8217;t be the case in the world&#8217;s fifth or so richest economy. It&#8217;s shocking how bad it is now, and I&#8217;m terrified about how the NHS is going to be run into the ground when the Tories come into power in a couple of years and introduce their &#8220;efficiency savings&#8221;  i.e. sack staff and cut back on expenditure on medication and equipment. Time to start creating your minisites now to focus on private medical insurance.</p>
<p>Having taken my mother to what must be over 50 hospital and clinic appointments over the last year, I must say my total lack of faith in the NHS has been reinforced each and every single time. I don&#8217;t just blame the organisational structure and management, which it&#8217;s so easy to do, but the staff. Although there is the odd nurse or doctor who does care, the vast majority don&#8217;t seem to give a toss (have you ever seen a doctor or nurse smile since about AD 1979?). They will gladly keep you waiting two hours as they go for their long lunch break, without even a hint of an apology. And try phoning any hospital after 3pm to see if anybody bothers to pick up the phone <img src='http://www.lammo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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