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		<title>By: Farb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Farb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 10:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dental student is symptomatic of a larger issue: that those who are determined to end up in dentistry are the very people one doesn&#039;t want there: extremely unsociable with no social skills and no empathy. And increasingly suffering severe mental issues. Dental student should be removed from the curriculum forthwith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dental student is symptomatic of a larger issue: that those who are determined to end up in dentistry are the very people one doesn&#8217;t want there: extremely unsociable with no social skills and no empathy. And increasingly suffering severe mental issues. Dental student should be removed from the curriculum forthwith.</p>
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		<title>By: Scarlett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scarlett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2011 08:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Dental student,  and all
I have just been diagnosed with Periconitis, after getting an invisalign brace, which you should be aware requires a great deal of excellent oral hygiene, i brushed and mouth washed everytime i had something to eat, which was about four times a day, and made sure i did a 1 minute mouth wash each time..
I did put in the effort actually!.. and still got it, because there is a massive peice of gum over the back of my wisdom tooth that is half in.
I&#039;ve also use chorsodyl, and I&#039; now on antibiotics.
I feel you have been over generalised in what you said and quite frankly insulting. I take pride in brushing my teeth. and took great care in brushing a painfull area. I don&#039;t feel its fair to say if you brushed your teeth porperly this wouldnt happen..as this could happen to people who do take good care..just by a pit of food getting trapped or being physically run down and more prone to infection! You have to get this three times before they consider removing the peice of gum or tooth..why?

On another note I&#039;m registered with a private and nhs dentist, the nhs i use for check ups and the private for any work that needs to be done, I use this particular private dentist as he makes sure my teeth look as natural as possible and has never encouraged cosmetic crowns or veneers and always steered me to good alternatives. I was unfortunatly ill over two bank holidays, but i phoned my private dentist and got an apointment that day, with antibiotics in my hand at the appointment .. for the cost of £15 all in. Which I think is a fair price to pay. I&#039;ll see how it goes with antibiotics.

I&#039;d also like to say that whilst working in France,three of my collegues got wisdom tooth a problems, with huge swollen faces where straight away (same day) seen my the doctor/ dentist and sent within the next 48 hours to have there teeth removed.. and quickly back at work.I know you pay 40% tax.. but in France they dont believe any one should suffer, thus you get treated like a human being, and not spoken to like a child.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Dental student,  and all<br />
I have just been diagnosed with Periconitis, after getting an invisalign brace, which you should be aware requires a great deal of excellent oral hygiene, i brushed and mouth washed everytime i had something to eat, which was about four times a day, and made sure i did a 1 minute mouth wash each time..<br />
I did put in the effort actually!.. and still got it, because there is a massive peice of gum over the back of my wisdom tooth that is half in.<br />
I&#8217;ve also use chorsodyl, and I&#8217; now on antibiotics.<br />
I feel you have been over generalised in what you said and quite frankly insulting. I take pride in brushing my teeth. and took great care in brushing a painfull area. I don&#8217;t feel its fair to say if you brushed your teeth porperly this wouldnt happen..as this could happen to people who do take good care..just by a pit of food getting trapped or being physically run down and more prone to infection! You have to get this three times before they consider removing the peice of gum or tooth..why?</p>
<p>On another note I&#8217;m registered with a private and nhs dentist, the nhs i use for check ups and the private for any work that needs to be done, I use this particular private dentist as he makes sure my teeth look as natural as possible and has never encouraged cosmetic crowns or veneers and always steered me to good alternatives. I was unfortunatly ill over two bank holidays, but i phoned my private dentist and got an apointment that day, with antibiotics in my hand at the appointment .. for the cost of £15 all in. Which I think is a fair price to pay. I&#8217;ll see how it goes with antibiotics.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also like to say that whilst working in France,three of my collegues got wisdom tooth a problems, with huge swollen faces where straight away (same day) seen my the doctor/ dentist and sent within the next 48 hours to have there teeth removed.. and quickly back at work.I know you pay 40% tax.. but in France they dont believe any one should suffer, thus you get treated like a human being, and not spoken to like a child.</p>
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		<title>By: lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2011 10:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I found this site whilst trying to find info on this, I am currently in pain with wisdom tooth infection. Having had a weeks antibiotics which did NOTHING I am left to suffer not allowed any further meds, and to wait for my hospital referral which is a 3 month wait for it to be pulled. I received the same attitude from my dentist as dental student and I can say I DO brush twice a day use mouthwash and so on............It&#039;s disgusting we should be left to suffer with this pain not looking forward to my 3 month wait :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I found this site whilst trying to find info on this, I am currently in pain with wisdom tooth infection. Having had a weeks antibiotics which did NOTHING I am left to suffer not allowed any further meds, and to wait for my hospital referral which is a 3 month wait for it to be pulled. I received the same attitude from my dentist as dental student and I can say I DO brush twice a day use mouthwash and so on&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;It&#8217;s disgusting we should be left to suffer with this pain not looking forward to my 3 month wait <img src='http://www.lammo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: fulham</title>
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		<dc:creator>fulham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 21:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fulham London we have a good choice of nhs dentists we get seen pretty quick. I had the same problem with one of my wisdom teeth. I could not even close my mouth. The nice dentist at http://emergencynhsdentist.com/ immediatly diagnosed my problem as an impacted wisdom tooth. But the could not take it out due to it being to close to one of my nerves. 
The used corsodyl to clean out the area and put me on some antibiotics. I was referred to an oral surgeon and had it removed at my local hospital. Apparently you need to be specially trained to have impacted wisdom teeth taken out. Damaged nerves can mean your lip can become permenantly numb. Im glad I saw a specialist as I had no problems</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fulham London we have a good choice of nhs dentists we get seen pretty quick. I had the same problem with one of my wisdom teeth. I could not even close my mouth. The nice dentist at <a href="http://emergencynhsdentist.com/" rel="nofollow">http://emergencynhsdentist.com/</a> immediatly diagnosed my problem as an impacted wisdom tooth. But the could not take it out due to it being to close to one of my nerves.<br />
The used corsodyl to clean out the area and put me on some antibiotics. I was referred to an oral surgeon and had it removed at my local hospital. Apparently you need to be specially trained to have impacted wisdom teeth taken out. Damaged nerves can mean your lip can become permenantly numb. Im glad I saw a specialist as I had no problems</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happened to NHS dentistry was something along the lines of this: (off the top of me head)

The NHS&#039;s evil overlords at the Department of Health looked at the amount of work done by dentists in 2005 and set that as their quota,and paid them for a set number of &quot;units of dental time.&quot;

Once they have done their quota, they won&#039;t get paid a penny more for any work they do on top of that, so, they do private work in order to earn an income, which is why it&#039;s so hard to get on an NHS dentist&#039;s list, as if they take on any more people they won&#039;t get paid for doing the work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happened to NHS dentistry was something along the lines of this: (off the top of me head)</p>
<p>The NHS&#8217;s evil overlords at the Department of Health looked at the amount of work done by dentists in 2005 and set that as their quota,and paid them for a set number of &#8220;units of dental time.&#8221;</p>
<p>Once they have done their quota, they won&#8217;t get paid a penny more for any work they do on top of that, so, they do private work in order to earn an income, which is why it&#8217;s so hard to get on an NHS dentist&#8217;s list, as if they take on any more people they won&#8217;t get paid for doing the work.</p>
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		<title>By: A.B.C.D</title>
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		<dc:creator>A.B.C.D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ye benj

i feel fine now

screw the dentists...


i used clove oil, it wasnt nice taste

but in 2days, oooh so worth it


i wunder how to contact gordon brown??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ye benj</p>
<p>i feel fine now</p>
<p>screw the dentists&#8230;</p>
<p>i used clove oil, it wasnt nice taste</p>
<p>but in 2days, oooh so worth it</p>
<p>i wunder how to contact gordon brown??</p>
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		<title>By: benj</title>
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		<dc:creator>benj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suggest you send this to Gordon Brown. Protocol dictates that he or his secretary must reply. My Mum is facing a similar dilemma and I feel helpless to guide her on what to do next.

It&#039;s complete farce with people suffering alon te way whilst Dentist&#039;s line their pockets. Time it was all Nationalised or Hospitals were forced t introdue Dental services as part of A &amp; E/ conventional treatment. 
Dentist have the cheek to benefit from NHS funded training hen set up privately and exclude NHS treatment or severely restrict it to &#039;Check-Ups&#039; only. It&#039;s a marketing ploy stating &quot;We accept NHS patients&quot;... because mostly it means &quot;for check-ups only&quot;!... you&#039;ve only got to look at the &#039;smart&#039; clinics Dentists are now opening .... like hairdressers but charging exhorbitant fees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suggest you send this to Gordon Brown. Protocol dictates that he or his secretary must reply. My Mum is facing a similar dilemma and I feel helpless to guide her on what to do next.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s complete farce with people suffering alon te way whilst Dentist&#8217;s line their pockets. Time it was all Nationalised or Hospitals were forced t introdue Dental services as part of A &amp; E/ conventional treatment.<br />
Dentist have the cheek to benefit from NHS funded training hen set up privately and exclude NHS treatment or severely restrict it to &#8216;Check-Ups&#8217; only. It&#8217;s a marketing ploy stating &#8220;We accept NHS patients&#8221;&#8230; because mostly it means &#8220;for check-ups only&#8221;!&#8230; you&#8217;ve only got to look at the &#8216;smart&#8217; clinics Dentists are now opening &#8230;. like hairdressers but charging exhorbitant fees.</p>
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		<title>By: A.B.C.D</title>
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		<dc:creator>A.B.C.D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 04:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i dont have a dentist at all, i am 15 now, and have one tooth that is really crooked, it is red and sore and keeps me awake EVERY night, the dentist i used to go to, &quot;kicked&quot; me out when i was 9 because i didnt want to go, and i didnt like going...


how pathetic is that, no kid WANTS to go to the dentist...


the NHS is truly f***ed up...considering britain has the second best economy (although thanks to gordon brown, there are no poor americans, and ur tv is worth mur than ur house...mmhmm)

anyway, considering (although i myself dont pay taxes yet, thank god) i think it is absolutely stupid that you have to pay, the long hard way, whereas you COULD and SHOULD BE ABLE TO be sorted in days...but apparently money is more important...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dont have a dentist at all, i am 15 now, and have one tooth that is really crooked, it is red and sore and keeps me awake EVERY night, the dentist i used to go to, &#8220;kicked&#8221; me out when i was 9 because i didnt want to go, and i didnt like going&#8230;</p>
<p>how pathetic is that, no kid WANTS to go to the dentist&#8230;</p>
<p>the NHS is truly f***ed up&#8230;considering britain has the second best economy (although thanks to gordon brown, there are no poor americans, and ur tv is worth mur than ur house&#8230;mmhmm)</p>
<p>anyway, considering (although i myself dont pay taxes yet, thank god) i think it is absolutely stupid that you have to pay, the long hard way, whereas you COULD and SHOULD BE ABLE TO be sorted in days&#8230;but apparently money is more important&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps Dental Student might like to take into consideration that if people did brush twice daily and floss etc then he or she might be out of a job???

I for one am absolutely fed up of going to a dentist to get lectured about my teeth at the end of the day I&#039;m paying for a service and as such don&#039;t appreciate what can only be advised as a good thorough nag by the dentist. Advice is welcomed, nagging is not. 

Right now I am suffering with tooth ache but with the double whammy of paying a fortune (I&#039;m considering re-mortgaging my kidney!!) and receiving a lecture I think I&#039;d rather continue popping Ibroprufen like they are smarties.

it absolutely astonishes me that we can receive a triple heart bypass on the NHS for free (albeit a wait may be involved) but not an extraction or filling?? Ridiculous!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps Dental Student might like to take into consideration that if people did brush twice daily and floss etc then he or she might be out of a job???</p>
<p>I for one am absolutely fed up of going to a dentist to get lectured about my teeth at the end of the day I&#8217;m paying for a service and as such don&#8217;t appreciate what can only be advised as a good thorough nag by the dentist. Advice is welcomed, nagging is not. </p>
<p>Right now I am suffering with tooth ache but with the double whammy of paying a fortune (I&#8217;m considering re-mortgaging my kidney!!) and receiving a lecture I think I&#8217;d rather continue popping Ibroprufen like they are smarties.</p>
<p>it absolutely astonishes me that we can receive a triple heart bypass on the NHS for free (albeit a wait may be involved) but not an extraction or filling?? Ridiculous!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Dentist should have recommended the use of something like PerioChip as a treatment for &#039;Er indoors&#039;. 

PerioChip is a treatment mainly for Periodontitis (gum disease), but benefits to using PerioChip are:  
•	PerioChip can be used in for periocoronitis, in furcations, abutments to bridges and is also indicated for use prior to implants and in cases of perioimplantitis
•	It can be used on any patient with pockets (where the tooth sits in the gum) of 5mm in depth or greater and the only known contra-indication is intolerance to Chlorhexidine, which is uncommon.  
•	As it is non-antibiotic there is no risk of compromising patients’ bacterial resistance, it is bacteriocidal not bacteriostatic and the PerioChip should be used every 3 months alongside regular root surface debridement until the pocket depth is back to a manageable depth of 5mm or less.   
•	For any adjunct therapy to be effective it needs to remain in the pocket long enough to kill the bacteria.  The chlorhexidine has follow over action in the pocket for up to 100 days after chip insertion, which ties in well with patients’ 3 monthly visits, if pockets are still over 5mm in depth on subsequent visits chip insertion is recommended until pockets are back to a manageable depth, helping avoid more invasive surgery.

You can find more info at www.periochip.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Dentist should have recommended the use of something like PerioChip as a treatment for &#8216;Er indoors&#8217;. </p>
<p>PerioChip is a treatment mainly for Periodontitis (gum disease), but benefits to using PerioChip are:<br />
•	PerioChip can be used in for periocoronitis, in furcations, abutments to bridges and is also indicated for use prior to implants and in cases of perioimplantitis<br />
•	It can be used on any patient with pockets (where the tooth sits in the gum) of 5mm in depth or greater and the only known contra-indication is intolerance to Chlorhexidine, which is uncommon.<br />
•	As it is non-antibiotic there is no risk of compromising patients’ bacterial resistance, it is bacteriocidal not bacteriostatic and the PerioChip should be used every 3 months alongside regular root surface debridement until the pocket depth is back to a manageable depth of 5mm or less.<br />
•	For any adjunct therapy to be effective it needs to remain in the pocket long enough to kill the bacteria.  The chlorhexidine has follow over action in the pocket for up to 100 days after chip insertion, which ties in well with patients’ 3 monthly visits, if pockets are still over 5mm in depth on subsequent visits chip insertion is recommended until pockets are back to a manageable depth, helping avoid more invasive surgery.</p>
<p>You can find more info at <a href="http://www.periochip.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.periochip.com</a></p>
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